The “lost” songs

I don’t want to take advantage of your insider knowledge, so feel free to ignore this!

But I’m curious which R.E.M. demos made it to Peter Buck’s solo stuff. Or Filthy Friends. Or anything else.

Off the top of my head, Nothing Means Nothing and Drown With Me from the solo albums sound pretty R.E.M.ish. I could imagine Stipe singing those. Also Any Kind Of Crowd by Filthy Friends. And the title track of Beat Poetry for Survivalists, is a very R.E.M.ish chord progression. (Though the song itself is not R.E.M.ish at all.)

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i’m on record somewhere on the internet that “weatherman” will be the single from the ATS reissue. hope i’m right!

wasn’t “bad ass” recorded for a movie soundtrack? i seem to remember reading that.

my holy grail is a studio version of “title.” but really any lost demo with vocals will be interesting. release it all!

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I thought I once read you? or someone else suggest that the Living Well riff dated all the way back to the Monster era?

Only Lovers Are Broken from the second Filthy Friends album is by far the most “R.E.M.” song from Peter’s solo work, to my ears, anyway. Could have been the best song on Accelerate or Collapse Into Now.

buck has said it was kicking around since 1985

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Great song.

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not sure if this is the mojo interview mentioned upthread, but i just found some great info in this interview about “lucky piece.”

Mike Mills has just mentioned that of the forty-seven songs that were originally begun for Monster, there were only four fully-completed numbers that were deemed unsuitable for final inclusion. “They all had lyrics and everything, they just didn’t fit,” he explains.

At Stipe’s initiation, there then begins an intense mini-inquest into the precise status of some of this surplus.

“Peter was talking about ‘Lucky Piece’ last night and wanting to revive that,” he declares, uncurling his legs from beneath himself on the couch, and turning to stare intensely at Mills who, it transpires, seems to have completely forgotten this particular track.

“‘Lucky Piece’, I don’t remember that one,” he says.

“You’ve forgotten ‘Lucky Piece’, it’s the one that Peter plays piano on.” Stipe then begins to sing softly for a couple of seconds. “Bum boo, bum boo, bum boo, bum bum boo.”

Mills continues to look a little unsure. “I like Peter’s piano style,” he avers.

“It’s one of his sort of cocktail, funny kinda things.”

“He’s got a couple of good things on piano.” Still no sign of a penny dropping.

“And ‘Revolution’,” says Stipe abruptly, “that’s another one I don’t want to lose,”

“That’ll turn out. It’s gonna be one of the B-sides,” reassures Mills.

“Is it? With the second verse intact?”

“The second verse didn’t bother me.”

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Great find!

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based on michael’s description, i don’t think it’s an instrumental that appears on the monster deluxe. didn’t hear any with piano, but maybe i need to relisten.

Great find! That’s not the interview from Mojo. I haven’t seen that before.

Funnily enough, I just bought the Mojo R.E.M. special, and the interview I remember is reprinted in that. Here are a couple of screenshots with the relevant bit:

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I hadn’t heard the thing about Peter’s piano before. Can’t think of any Hi-Fi songs, or b-sides or demos from the Monster onwards era that it could be.

It remains a mystery!

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odd that michael was apparently very keen to get it on a record for a bit, and then… no sign of it ever again? even on the monster reissue that unearthed a lot of demos? kinda frustrating to be honest! but holding out hope for that mythical box set or whatever.

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It’s the piano thing that’s thrown me. I’ve heard demos for all the albums other than Hi-Fi, and I can’t think what it might be. I’d always assumed it ended up on Hi-Fi with a different name.

Timeline-Chris once said that there were some elements from Lucky Piece that ended up on Electrolite…

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whoa! that’s a good tidbit.

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Thanks. would still LOVE to hear Lucky Piece, even if there are similarities it must be quite different from Electrolite

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yeah – guessing similar musical idea but different lyric/melody… just emailed chris to ask if he had any other info or insight!

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chris has graciously responded with some amazing info and gave me the go-ahead to post here. so here’s what he said about “lucky piece” and many others! thanks chris!

Firstly: ‘Lucky Piece’,

the comment ‘Chris once said that there were elements from Lucky Piece that ended up on Electrolite…’ - I DID NOT say that - I only said it sounded like a slower Electrolite. It’s a slow late night cocktail lounge like song, with prominent piano & a funky guitar line similar to the guitar on ‘All The Way To Reno’. You can tell Peter is playing piano as it sounds quite clunky. This song & Electrolite are 2 distinctively different songs.

‘Lucky Piece’ was recorded as a demo at Crossover Soundstage in Atlanta, GA during sessions in February 1994 & was not worked on during the remainder of the Monster sessions & the only time the band worked on it again was strangely during one soundcheck in Mansfield, MA on 17 June 1995.

Electrolite (working title Guiro) started showing up in soundchecks from Hershey, PA on 30 Sept 1995.

‘Lucky Piece’ has gained a mythology that it doesn’t deserve.

2: ‘Weatherman’ - this was recorded a number of times during the ATS sessions, twice in Oct 2002, then March 2003, & worked on in 2004 so yes there are multiple versions for the band to choose from.

3: ‘I’m Gonna DJ’ - the final ATS version is correct as Scott says - it’s slower & ‘weirder’ than the Accelerate version, but it’s not as good as the Accelerate version, and to be honest sounds unfinished, and glad it wasn’t released. Accelerate version is far superior.

  1. ‘On The Fly’ was recorded for both ATS & Accelerate, the finished ATS version sounds exactly like the Olympia & Take Away shows - so if it ever gets released there’s no surprises with that one.

  2. ‘Title’ - sadly this song wasn’t recorded during the ‘Green’ sessions - I had a good look in the Archives but was only played live & demoed twice.

  3. ‘Experiment In Terror’ - this is the real unreleased gem from the Monster sessions - the version on the Monster reissue is instrumental but there is a version with lyrics from Miami, with the chorus:

‘I will be Jack Lemmon in Days Of Wine And Roses, you can be Lee Remick in Experiment Of Terror’ -

Michael wanted Kim Gordon from Sonic Youth to sing that part. Michael wasn’t happy with the lyrics so that’s why the instrumental version was used on the reissue. I really hope this gets released at some point.

Another song that the band were working on during the Monster Miami sessions was a song called ‘Ex-12 String’ an instrumental which is very jangly & guitar line sounds similar to ‘Texarkana’.

  1. ‘Let Me In’ (Mikes New Demo)
    During the Miami Monster sessions - ‘Let Me In’ was demoed for the 1st time - this is very simple - just Mike on backing guitar & Michael singing through a Walkman - it’s very raw & rough, but it’s very powerful. Michael mentioned this version during an interview in London during the Monster reissue promo tour with Mike I was at with them - and this HAS to be released as it’s so so good.
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Thanks! amazing info indeed. and sorry for the misremembering.
got to say, Michael’s approach to the whole demos issue since the Monster reissue is very very frustrating…

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Does anyone know if there’s a story why ‘A Cool Dry Place’ from the Up period never found its way onto at least a b-side?

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